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THE HORROR COMMUNITY - THE DAY AFTER

29/11/2014
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Thanks to everyone who shared and commented on yesterday's post, both  here and on Facebook, and in a few instances in emails.  

Some of you, and it might be my fault for not being clearer, thought the article was about Ginger Nuts, it wasn't. It was about you writers slaving away and the sense of loss of community (that's why I used the picture from Community). 

Most of the comments were positive, but some of them and in particular some of the emails had a rather sour grapes feel to them.  I want to address a couple of them here briefly, before a more in-depth follow up article in a few weeks. 

The one topic that appeared in a lot of emails and PM's was 


"you go on about sharing, but you have never featured me on your site"
Woah, wait a minute! You do realise that this site and 99% of other websites dedicated to promoting fiction in whatever genre is a child born from love.  We don't make money, we have full time jobs, family and other commitments.  We do this because we care about the sort of books we promote.  I can't speak for other sites, I am now at the stage where I spend more time dealing with emails, than actually writing articles or even more importantly reading for myself.  We can't feature everyone it's impossible!

I'm human, which means I am susceptible to the same prejudices as everyone else. We respond to politeness, so sending a badly worded, completely impersonable email, that doesn't even get your name right, kind of puts us off.  In a similar vein we are more likely to feature writers who interact with us out there on Social media.  See the points about sharing and interacting are valid.  You can say that we are biased and yes you are correct.  But it all comes down to time, we will feature those writers who interact with us outside of the website, it's only human nature.  

Don't moan about not getting featured when all you have ever done is send a shitty email for a book that frankly has a cover that looks like your rather unartistic two year old kid had drawn.  We don't know you from Adam, we have no clue as to whether you are good writer if this is all we know about you.  But an email  that is nigh on impossible to read clearly is kind of a give away.  

"But we can't share everything" 

I never asked you share everything, and it was never about sharing everything, it was about getting the sense of community back.  Stop the spamming come out of your bunker and interact with other writers, readers, bloggers etc.  It's all about the chat (no spam)*.  Have fun, make friends, sod it have a party. 

"Why should I share other writers when people like Stephen King won't share mine"

This was my favourite comment.  In truth why the hell should he.  He got where he is from paying his dues.  He worked his arse off, he also found fame in a time where there was a sense of community.  And if you must know he does help writers, even if it is a simple thing like blurbing a book. 

There seems to be a growing sense of entitlement amongst certain  factions of the genre.  A feeling that just because they have written a book, everyone else should start tripping over themselves to buy and push the book.  Sorry but that's just part of the disbanding of the genre.  These are the sort of authors who send death threats to website admins,call the owner of what was a really good horror discussion group on Facebook a "c**t", just because they get told off for spamming the site constantly. 

Seriously if you are one of these authors then you need to get a grip off yourself. This sort of behavior is NEVER acceptable.  Apart from the fact that this is abuse and probably under the new internet laws could be a criminal offence, what you are doing is the exact opposite of what you think you are achieving.  You are destroying the very building blocks of the community.  As these sort of places close down, you'll soon find yourselves just shouting at others just like you,with the only dialogue being heard is 

"BUY MY BOOK, BUY MY BOOK, BUY MY BOOK, BUY MY BOOK, BUY MY BOOK, BUY MY BOOK!

That will be a sad, sad day for the genre.  

* sorry could think of a better pun to tie in with that bass song.  
Amanda J Spedding link
29/11/2014 05:55:58

Wow, just... wow. Some people be crazy! Threatening emails is NOT okay, and I can't understand why some writers would think this wouldn't come back to bite them on the arse.

Peter Coleborn link
29/11/2014 06:14:14

I too have attempted to include news on my website (and on the BFS website when I was the online news editor) but I can't post information if people fail to send in news. I don't have time to search out snippets of news from around the web. That's one reason Piper hasn't been updated in a while (the main reason is that I'm busy editing Alchemy Press books [that's a subtle plug, by the way]).

Steve Green
29/11/2014 07:03:17

Overall, I would say Facebook has had a massively detrimental effect upon the horror sub-culture. The mechanism is so simple to use, hardly anyone takes the time to fully think through their views before commenting. Most just hit the 'like' button, as though they were lab monkeys trying to earn a banana. We are drowning in data, but only a tiny fraction is of any consequence, and that which is disappears beneath the tidal waves of utter piffle. Sadly, I see no end to the tsunami, although sites such as yours (and, hopefully, the one I'm in the process of setting up) offer some degree of shelter from an increasingly blipvert society.

Kat Yares
29/11/2014 07:12:47

Well said, once again!

Carmilla Voiez link
29/11/2014 08:27:19

I am always grateful when people take the time to respond to me as I know how busy everyone is. Thank you for building and maintaining a fantastic website.


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